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very good monday morning to you. a lot of talk, but no action yet. president obama claims he had another set of talks for this afternoon about how to deal with the nation's debt. but first, he'll give the american people an update at an 11:00 a.m. news conference in about an hour. a rare sunday night meeting, putting all the players in the same room, but failing to move the ball down the field. now, president obama says they'll talk about it every single day until they hammer out a deal. >> the president put on the terrible some terribly painful things. democrats didn't walk out. but we don't need to panic.
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the president has been burning the clock with the secret negotiations, pushing up against a deadline so he can create this panic. raising taxes in the middle of this economic situation we're in is a terrible idea. >> we do not support cuts in benefits for social security and medicare. >> everything is on the table except for raising taxes on the american people. >> democrats and this president are willing to do very hard things politically, but only part of a deal that's balanced. it's about our political system not be willing or able to, seemingly, take on big tasks. >> that happened all this week. kristin is live at the white house. a lot of talk. we're one day closer to that deadline. what can we expect to hear from the president in the next hour? >> hi there, richard. we expect the president to continue to push to get a big deal. what's a big deal? about $4 trillion in deaf sigz reductions over the next decade. at the end of last week, it looked like he and speaker
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boehner were moving towards the same page in terms of trying to get a big deal. that fell apart over the weekend. so we expect the president to resume calls for a big deal to say now is the time to seize the moment. there will be political pain on both sides. what he means by that is the democrats will have to come to the table over entitlements, making small changes to things like social security and medicare and the republicans will need to come to the table in terms of rolling back tax break for wealthy corporations and americans. as you said, richard, he's going to hammer this point that they will continue to work until they get a deal done. >> kristin, we were talking about a crucial 72 hours and the build up to that meeting. what happened? >> as of last thursday, it seemed like both the president and speaker boehner were trying to sell this big deal, this $4 trillion deal. then on saturday, speaker boehner really pulled on rug on that and sources close to the negotiations say he realized he just didn't have the vote to get
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a big deal done. the sticking point is democrats were calling for a roll back of tax breaks for relthy americans, big corporations and republicans were essentially saying, look, that does look too much like a tax increase. we just can't get behind it. speaker boehner apparently didn't feel like he had the votes to move that sort of a deal forward. what he's calling for now is a reduced deal, something to the range of $2 trillion to $2.5 trillion in reductions over the next decade. what thing is certain, lawmakers seem to agree that they want to get a deal within the next ten days pushing towards that august 2nd deadline. lawmakers say they need to get a deal within the next 10 days so it can be scored by the cbo and both houses of congress. >> and kristin, a lot of action is not really happening over on the hill. it's right behind you. you not only have the briefing that we expect in about an hour. there's another meeting this afternoon. what's expected in that.?
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>> that's exactly right, richard. president obama said at the end of the last night's meeting, the republicans needed to come to the table today with a plan for their smaller 2.2 to $2.5 trillion deficit reductions that the democrats did, as well. last night was really sort of a reorganization. again, they had been moving towards this larger $4 trillion plan. so what we expect is for both sides to come to the table, hopefully with some specifics during this afternoon's meeting so they can really start to hammer out, begin the process of the hard bargaining here. >> kristin welker at the white house, thank you. now, more on this subject. joining me now, a tea party republican supporter pat toomey. something that you're familiar with here, senator. do you think both sides can work out a deal. >> well, i would hope so.
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it would be disruptive if we don't have a deal by august 2nd. we are not going to default on our debt. but it would be very disruptive. i've argued what we ought to do is reach an agreement well before august 2nd. just last week, senator mike lee and myself and a group of us in the senate proposed a very simple arrangement whereby we are willing to raise the debt limit by the full amount the president has requested provided that the president agree to put us on a path to a balanced budget. we think that's pretty reasonable. even president clinton agreed we ought to strive for a balanced budget. >> is speaker boehner, then, representing that idea? is he representing your views properly in these negotiations? >> speaker boehner's job is not necessarily to represent my ideas. what i'm going to try to do is persuade enough of my colleagues that that ought to be an important message. that's something that we can be for. some of us have been pushing for
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that for a long time. a balanced budget, it makes common sense to most people. it's necessary for families and businesses and 49 out of 50 states are required to operate that way. >> what we want to allude to is the pressure from the right for the speaker. do you think that he is, at this moment, stuck in a hard place? >> i think it's a very hard place. president obama wants a huge increase in the size of government and a big tax increase to pay for it. john boehner wants less government and no increase in taxes. so sure, he's a very tough spot. what some of us are trying to do is change the dynamic a little bit and focus not on some abstraction, like several trillion dollars of spending cuts, which might end up being more theoretical than real and how about a balanced budget? instead of spending caps, it's not overnight, but over several years and we think that is the best thing for this economy, the best thing for job growth and critical for our fiscal health.
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>> senator pat toomey, thank you. >> thanks for having me. >> special coverage of today's presidential news conference begins at 11:00 a.m. eastern with chris matthews. you don't want to miss that. stick around. now to libya, progovernment protesters have attacked the embassy. richard, what's the layest from? >> we just spoke to witnesses in damasc damascus. they said something several supporters of the president attacked the u.s. embassy in damascus. they threw stones, they threw eggs and tomatoes, they broke a few windows, apparently. there were two attacks, one on the u.s. embassy in damascus. the other on the french embassy in damascus. the protesters managed to write gra fee tee on the u.s. embassy wall webs calling the american ambassador a dog. the attacks on the french and
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u.s. embassy were triggered after both the american and french ambassador visited the city of hamah on friday. the city of hamah has seen some major anti-government demonstrationes and these two ambassadors went to hamah to effectively show solidarity with the protesters. on the u.s. embassy's web page, ambassador robert ford, he wrote on his website that he called it, quote, ironic that the syrian government will allow freely anti-american demonstrations to take place while security thugs, to use his words, crack down on peaceful demonstrations taking place in other parts of the country. >> breaking news out of syria, richard engle with that. thank you. frienting moments in iraq today as leon panetta arrives as his first official visit to troops. secretary panetta was at camp
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victory at the time of the attack discussing an increase in violence against the u.s. troops as they prepare to leave iraq. >> my first responsibility as secretary of defense, the first responsibility offer commanders is to make sure that we do everything necessary to protect you. and we are going to do that. >> all right. nbc's chief pentagon correspondent jim is live in baghdad traveling with the secretary. what are the secretary's goals for this trip? >> quite frankly, in terms of the violence that is now directed specifically at u.s. troops here in iraq, 15 american soldiers were killed last month and one soldier here told me this morning, they're coming at us. and the question is, what can the u.s. do about it?
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extremists, according to leon panetta, iraqi extremists are using sophisticated weapons supplied by them by iran. so what panetta has said is that, you know, trying to put pressure on iran to end those shipments of weapons into iraq. but also, pressuring the iraqi government to step forward and provide some protection for the u.s. soldiers whose combat mission no longer exists here. but we are told and there are indications from some u.s. military officials that that may not be the case for too long, that if these attacks persist and the iraqis do not respond to protect the americans, the americans themselves may launch combat operations against those behind the attacks here in baghdad and elsewhere, richard. >> jim, thanks. right now in an oklahoma city courtroom, a pharmacist convicted of murdering a teenager who tried to rob the drugstore where he worked is about to be sentenced. in the highly publicized case,
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jerome claimed he shot the gun in self-defense. but he shot 16-year-old antwaan parker five times after the teen was injured on the floor. charles hadlock joins me now from outside the courthouse. the jury recommended a sentence of life in prison. what are we expecting? >> the court will convene in just a few moments where the judge will concur with the life sentence of change it. what this case is all about is was it a case of self-defense, a shop keeper defending his property and his workers or was it a case of murder? the videotaped evidence showed two teenagers walked into the reliable pharmacy in oklahoma city two years ago. behind the counter, jerome urslin also had a gun. he fired one shot striking one of the suspects after chasing the other suspect out the door, the case could have ended there and it would have been a case of
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self-defense. but it didn't end there. urslin came back inside, took the time to go back to the back of the pharmacy, reaching into the drawer, pulling out another pistol and walking up to the suspect who was wounded on the floor and firing five more shots into his body. the coroner said he died of those additional shots. the jury and the prosecutors agreed that it was a case of premeditated murder and they recommended a sentence of life in prison. he wouldn't be eligible for parole until urslin is 97 years old. >> charles, there's a petition signed by 17,000 people. what's that about? >> friends and supporters have petitioned the governor to pardon him. urslin is appealing his conviction and if it is sent to prison, it will have to go through the patrol boards first. >> william and kate ditched a
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senate republican leader mitch mcconnell is pointing to the acquittal of casey anthony as an example of why u.s. civilian courts should not be trusted to try terror suspects. >> these are not american citizens. just look at the casey anthony case, how difficult it is to get a conviction in a u.s. court. >> mcconnell and others were outraged last week after the obama administration looked to charge a somali terror suspect in a civilian court.
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the national 9/11 tribute memorial opens on september 12th. another sign congresswoman michele bachmann is surging. now she's fighting off criticism from gop rivals. >> i like congresswoman bachmann. i have campaigned for him. i respect her. but her record of accomplishment in congress is not existent. so we're not looking for folks who, you know, just have speech capabilities. we're looking for folks who can lead a large enterprise in a public setting and drive tight conclusion. i've done that and she hasn't. >> in a statement, bachmann responded to that saying, quote, instead of negativity, i want to focus on my accomplishments, end quote. now i want to bring in joe watkins. we also have editor of the read report.com, joy enri. has she made it?
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she's topping another poll in iowa, as well. >> she is clearly the candidate to beat as of today. i mean, it's still early, but she's the candidate to beat as of today in iowa. of course, all guns are aimed at her, so to speak, politically. and you've got to, if you're a candidate who is struggling like tim pawlenty, you have to do something to get things moving. don't forget who is raising money and how much they're raising. michele bachmann did not raise lots and lots of money, although she did in the polls. but you've got mitt romney, jon huffman after stating about a month ago he's going to get into this race. the folks that are having a tough time raising money have to start there. >> joy, last gas, do you think, for pawlenty? >> well, you know what? i think what we are witnessing here is the battle for the second tier. i think mitt romney would have to be seen as the front-runner, though he hasn't done that great, he's still ahead in the
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minds of most front-runners. they have to take one another out because you can't want -- let's say if one of them became the nominee, the other couldn't be the vice presidential nominee because they're both from the same state. andbackman occupies a strange space in the republican base right now. really in a way, only in iowa could a lady who just sigh signed a pledge that said black kids were better off as slaves than they were under the first president, only in iowa could that person be the front-runner. but she fits that part of the bait. >> joe, let's talk about safe sarah palin. on her facebook page she says this, leaders are expected to give good speeches, but leadership is so much more that are ortory. real leadership requires deeds even more than words. we talk about last gas. are we seeing that here with palin? >> sarah palin, she's at least been the governor, she's been the chief executive of a state. while she has been out on the
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stump giving lots of speeches and has had some challenges along the way, she did lead a state. she has a track record that people can point to where she saves the taxpayers money. she was very, very popular there. she had at one point an 85% approval rating. so whether or not she gets into the race is a whole different matter. >> joy, got to get to you. 0 seconds. "ne "newsweek" cover with i can win palin. >> i think that should have said i'm still here. every moment that people forget she potentially wants to run for president is another $100,000 off her ability to earn money. the woman has to appear to want to be president in order to keep her income come in. i think she has to fight back against the bachmann tide. >> joe, joy-ann, thank you so much.
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sglooe georgia has enacted one of the toughest new laws on human trafficking in the country. this law increases minimum sentences for traffickers from one year to ten years and it tacks on a $100,000 fine for a conviction. but the feds are taking aim with a special visa program dedicated to locking up the traffickers and saving the victims. we're not showing the face of these women. >> the badge and the gun may be routine. but the mission is anything but. this is an i.c.e. agent, immigration and customs. her normal mission, to kick out undocumented immigrants. this agent's mission define tess few of those who may qualify to stay. >> you think of the enemy, think of people that are going to deport them. >> why do you help these
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undocumented immigrants? >> because they were tricked, forced or coerced. they had no idea they were going to be tricked into prostitution. >> nora was one of them. >> i nearly can walk because i was -- that is a horrible thing in my life. it is very hard that we have -- 100? >> yes. >> laura is but one example of what traffickers think their victims are worth. >> nothing more than a money generating profit item. like i said, they brought back slavery. >> laura and 11 other women who authorities say were held in their houses qualified pore t-vie sas, t for trafficking, for victims who testify against traffickers. >> what would these victims do if they didn't have the t-visa? >> we would have to deport them. we would never build these
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cases. >> the decision to grant t-visas happens here. >> when an immigration officer receives a file like this, they can start with these pages and make a determination as to whether this human trafficking visa agent can stay in the united states or return to their country. >> this is an empowerment tool. we're helping them go forth and conquer their victimzation. >> this is the actual application. >> beth choiniere decides the fate of t-visa applicants. >> it's their lives, but we understand every person who applies is a victim of something. >> but going after t-visas is underyou utilized. out of the '5,000 t visas available last year, only 447 were granted. why? many victims fear federal agents. >> we're not going to deport you. you're not going to be arrested by us. you are a victim. we're going to -- our goal is to save you. >> as for laura, the man accused
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of trafficking her is in federal prison. >> what is your life like today? >> beautiful. it is beautiful. i am a strong, strong woman. >> she has a job now and new friend, including a federal agent called the angel. >> it's not just a name or a number, but it's a soul. >> for more information, go to slavesinamerica.msnbc.com. the royals take america by storm during a whirlwind visit to the west coast. and cnbc's nicole lapin with a very cool and sweet deal across america on this very hot summer day. nicole.
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welcome back to jansing and company. chicago was nailed about an hour ago, almost 100,000 people without power. this line of storms continues to push right across lake michigan, now into michigan itself. detroit, you have one line of forms. we're going to see more power outages along interstate 80 and 90 in south bend, to toledo and detroit. you're next. they had to shut down o'hare and midway when these storms came through. the other story? the heat. today we're expecting 100 to 105 across a very large area, now including st. louis. this is a little bit in the way of dangerous heat. make sure you check on the elderly and don't keep the children outside for long. if you're wondering who has a cool summer, it's all our friends on the west coast. today, only 69 in san francisco. once again, richard, we're continuing to track the chicago area. that's why we saw the worst of the storms earlier today. we had that song for you because you remind us, you look like
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annie lennox. >> oh, really? i'm joking, man. >> thanks. people we're talking about right now, for the first time in 168 years, there is no news of the world on news stands in the uk. the paper published its last edition yesterday amid a huge phone hacking scandal. a former new york policemen says "news of the world" contacted him to access phone numbers of dead british 9/11 victims. he says he turned that job down. rescuers are searching the river for 80 missing. officials fear they may be trapped inside. in india, rescue kooems teams are using dogs to search for bodies and survivors of a train crash over to weekend. casey anthony has received death threats while serving the
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remaining jail time. she gets out on sunday. her attorney telling savannah guthrie on "today" he is worried about her safety, but she'll be okay. >> would you advise her to leave the country? >> no. this is as much her country as anybody else's. she needs to have some time and counseling and be reintroduced into society. >> well, on friday, casey rejected a jail visit from her mother. he thinks her relationship with her parents is likely beyond repair. the duke and duchess of cambridge have wrapped up their tour in north america. their last stop, they got her hands dirty painting and molding clay in a suit, nonetheless. the astronaut's of nasa's final space flight are busy today stocking the international space station with news, food and equipment. work could be on hold tomorrow.
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nasa is keeping an eye on a piece of space junk that "atlantis" and the space station may have to dodge while they're doing all that work. and at the top of the hour, the president will hold a news conference on the round of debt talks. we will break it down with luke ru russert and washington post's ezra cline. stick around for that. a dramatic burst of violence in new mexico has left 24 people dead in 24 hours. some kind by machine gun bullets and others blindfolded and shot execution style. >> to put it in context, this is immensely more violent than the ongoing violence in afghanistan. this is a struggle for the rule of law. >> telemundo is live in mexico city.
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this is still a violence that is shocking by recent standards. what is the reaction in mexico? >> richard, people in mexico is worried by this violence. in monterrey, a group of gunmen entered the bar on friday and killed 20 people. everybody could have been inside the bar and imagine having a good time and suddenly a group of men entered and kill 20 people in the place. people are worried and -- because they've been listening to it for more than five years now. in mexico city on friday, 11 bodies were found piled in the outside of the city and ten more pooem found and others close to
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the border found on the streets. yeah, this is shocking news. and in one of the statistics that we often forget, 40,000 dead in those five years related to drug violence. how are mexicans reacting to what the government is doing and its efforts? >> well, the last survey said that 60% of new mexicans said that the president is losing this war on drugs. they believe this war should stop. they want to get from across the border into the united states. that's where the business is. and we are the ones who are suffering the consequences of the war. so people are really criticizing some of the strategies that the president is using to fight the war. corruption is rampant and some judges are being paid to let criminals go, that some police
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are in the employ of criminals. many people here in mexico are not happy. with the numbers, the news that they are listening every day. >> complex issues. thank you for the very latest on that. there are major developments, as well, in the nearly six-month-long libyan gone flikt. it is time for libyan rebels to negotiate with moammar gadhafi according to france. mike taibbi is imbembedded in libya. mike, what effect will this have, this statement by the french with the rebels? >> well, you talk about growing impatience, richard, certainly the rebel forces are becoming more and more impatient with what they think is nato's slow pace of support. to large extent, nato has plowed the road through the mountains and from the east through benghazi. but it's been reported for weeks and months the efforts of
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benghazi on the part of the rebel forces have come to a stalemate 700 to 800 miles east of the tripoli. here the rebel forces have suddenly become the story. they have come from a border crossing next door in tunisia to the border cross b and they've worked their way east and northeast through where we are right now up to zantine, to the east of us about 80 miles or so, and they're working there way towards the garrison town, a town still held by gadhafi forces. he's so intent, gadhafi is, to prove that he has loyal supporters, he trucked down a bus load of supporters yesterday to show them there's real support. that means in the instance where gadyfy regime controls what reporters could see and hear, there were demonstrations by people, by forces loyal to gadhafi still, showing they're still in control of that town. the rebel forces say they can get there. they have the ammunition that
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was equal to what the gadhafi forces can have. they tell us it's equal to what the rebel forces had a few hours ago. they're asking nato for more support. on the one hand, they're complain background nato not doing enough with sporadic bombing, but downtown, in this somewhat of a ghost town, there's a sign to nato, thank you for saving our lives. the rebels need more help, or so they tell us. >> mike taibbi living, thank you for that report. stocks are lower right now. greece is getting a second rescue package. the dow down by 145 and change. a new sign this moment that the unemployment picture is becoming more grim. and another new sign the unemployment picture is grim, here is a new survey, small business owners that shows 64% of them do not plan to hire any new workers this year and 12% plan to cut jobs. this comes on the heels of the new labor department report
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showing unemployment rising on friday to 9.2%. cnbc's nicole lapin joins me live. nicole, we've got the stock market, we have this concern about small businesses which are so important. >> yeah. we're looking at a double debt threat right now. luke is gom going to come on and tell but what's going on in washington. investors are going to tell but that and what's happening with italy. greece was small potatoeses. you have the employment picture coming on the heels of friday's dismal rereport. we're looking now at small businesses, half of the private sector. that accounts for small businesses and we say it's the backbone of the economy. they're not hiring. who is? it's a slow and steady jobless recovery. >> silicone valley is hiring. >> it's something to cool us down on this very hot day, too.
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>> slur ppee day. >> it's the unofficial birthday of 7-eleven. for you guys, 7.11 ounces of your favorite slurpee, no questions asked. last year they did this and they said the sales of slurpees increased about 38% because people got a little bit of taste and then they wanted a little more. >> sampling. >> a little sampling. brain freezes will be increasing today. breaking news. >> breaking news on brain freezes you're talking about? >> yeah. that's why i stopped eating slurpees. i would get that right here and it would kill me. not you? >> just from the sound one probably got a brain freeze. >> special it. a little history for you with today's tweet on the day from nasa who writes, ground control to major tom, david bow bowie's space oddity released this day 1969, five days prior to apollo 11's launch.
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i want to bring in nbc's luke russert and msnbc policy an list and washington post columnist ezra cline. let's start with you, luke. are we going to hear anything different? >> there's probably not going to be a ground breaking deal made today. i think from the president, you're going to hear that they're hard at work in a bipartisan effort to try and cut spending. they try to position themselves to the center because they believe in the white house the more you go to the center on this, it's better through a 2012 re-election campaign. they're going to meet at 2:00 p.m. today. i'm sure we'll have a readout from both sides. expect to see these meetings almost as a daily occurrence all this week because both parties
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want to look like they're working there hardest to avert this economic armageddon, if you will. specifically, though, within these talks, we're hearing now they're going to move back to the biden decision, something like $2.4 trillion. remember, i spoke to capitol hill sources who said they're still not close on the biden side. there's 25% more to go on the biden decision talks. within that, there's still tax increases within what they've talked about so far. that is still a no-go for the house gop. how do you work out this smaller compromise without having a very sizable tax increase? they're going to have to hide a lot of things that are painful to both sides in terms of the settlement benefits being cut and tax increases and any type of compromise moving forward. >> and ezra, that third rail there of increasing taxes, the democrats are saying they're willing to touch that third rail. >> it's funny to see factors being brought up as a third rail. traditionally, the grant bargains are spending cuts and tax ress and the third rails are
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the most difficult and that right there is the basic asymmetry so far. and it's the one that politically is helping democrats. but it's holding up a deal that on the one hand they're willing to do both sides of an agreement here. republicans have not been able to get any support in the house gop for the tax side of an agreement. and basically what we saw this week with john boehner who thought maybe he could if he made the agreement big enough, he failed. the big story out of this weekends, i don't think, is the failure of these talks which should have been excessive. but it showed how little control john boehner has over his caucus. >> rather than saying a year or two from now, we may amend the constitution? republican ves to stay at the table, read their own speeches
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and stick with political decisions ta may be difficult. >> the gop, as you've been noting, have not been on the same song sheets. >> it's difficult to pack 218 votes using a house republican conference that is so opposed to a tax increase. remember, a lot of them signed this agreement that they would not raise any taxes. anytime you mention higher taxes, there's a concern that they will be from the right. a guy with a lighted torch and an ax on my wall in the form of a tea party flanking some other candidate to try and challenge me. that is a real fear amongst all candidates. nancy pelosi came out last week adamant against any changes to benefits in medicare and social security. that was going to be a very tough pill for house democrats to swallow because they see medicare as an issue that's going to regain them the majority in 2012.
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so while we're talking a lot about the tax issue on the right, it's important, don't forget the benefits on the left. there's still a long way to go before you can have a centrist position being bushed. >> luke is making that position. we have these live pictures on the left-hand side here, waiting for the president, which you would expect him to be speaking in about ten minutes. we, of course, will be watching that and taking it live right here with chris matthews. guys, stick around for a little bit. each of you. i want to ask you -- you're going to tell me, rather, the one thing that president obama needs to say at today's news conference. we have a live look right now. of course, chris matthews, special coverage, we'll keep it here and get that answer in a second. neutrogena® wet skin cuts through water. forms a broad spectrum barrier for full strength sun protection. wet skin. neutrogena®. but afraid you can't afford it?
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we're waiting to hear from the president in just a few minutes. live pictures there from the briefing room. that's expected again at 2:00 this afternoon.
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congressional leaders will be back at the white house. republicans were told to bring a plan to that 2:00 p.m. meeting, including how they can get a mid sized deal passed, including a $2.5 trillion worth of cuts. nbc's luke russert is still with us. ezra cline, also, washington post columnist. what is the one thing that the president needs to say here during this briefing? >> there is nothing he can say here that will make the slightest bit of difference. there just isn't. the republicans are going to decide there's a deal they can cut with the democrats and there's a deal they can make or we're all waiting from outside consequences from the debt ceiling getting very close to caving in or actually caving in. it will take market pressure. but there's not a press conference anyone can give right now that's going to change the game here. >> luke, what's the one thing? he needs to communicate the american people as to why the issue, this is so vast, a lot of people don't have a real understanding of, not only
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around america, but also in congress as to why it's important today. we are in crunch time pu talk to nonbias economist, if you talk to people on the hill. on top of that, he's been doing in the past an effective way of trying to communicate to say, look, i'm willing to show some pain here. i'm willing to take cuts and entitlements, i'm willing to get rid of things that i am for that i'm not particularly willing to do. i think you'll see that from all intentes and purposes, what we've heard so far from the white house. it's interesting, they've gone out of their way not to come out hard against john boehner saying, well, he walked away from the table. you're haefrg that among the chattering class, but the president himself has said all along, and you heard another guy say, look, boehner tried. his conference is too far to the right. you can't necessarily bring him that way. it makes him look like the centrist in the room. >> that wraps up this hour of jansing & company. hard ball's chris matthews picks up our coverage of president
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republicans have to get to the table. >> right now, you have more than 40 renl congressmen who say they won't increase any debt ceiling. you're going to neat democratic votes for that. you're not going to get democratic votes for a plan that doesn't solve the problem, just does cuts, doesn't do any revenues at all. >> the only way we will default is if secretary geithner and the president choose to default. now is not the time to panic and do something else that's going to make our economy worse and cost us more jobs.
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>> with time running out on the deadline, the president and key members of congress tried to make a deal last night, but there was no break through. now the president is taking his case to the public with a news conference that's set to begin at 11:00. now to kristin walker standing by at the white house, what is the goal of this press conference? >> well, what we expect, chris, is for the president to resume his calls for a big deal. what's a big deal? he wants to see about $4 trillion in deficit reductions over the next ten years. as you know, at the end of last week, it looked like the president, speaker boehner, were moving towards being on the same page in that regard. but then over the weekend, speaker boehner essentially pulled the plug. sources close to the negotiations saying that speaker boehner didn't feel as though he had the votes, that there were enough republican votes to approve that big deal, that $4 trillion deal.

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